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Posted on 2007.04.16 at 22:00


snapper521 at 2007-04-20 04:32 (UTC) (Link)
I'll pass thanks. :-)

What is it with guys Eric's age all having the same basic look? Y'all got beards or sorry excuses for such... Not sayin' which yours is. :-)
leonardii at 2007-04-20 14:48 (UTC) (Link)
I'm not an old man with a calvous head (at least not yet). But I do love a piliferous show of fine pogonotrophy.

The only trouble is - the older I get, the more hirsutulous I become in places unwanted. Ears, back, shoulers, etc.

It's like gravity is pulling my hair down to the rest of my body. But if I remove my beard - I look like a baby boy. And that will just not do. I shaved it off once for my wife - because she claimed to dislike pogonotrophy, but after it was gone. she screamed "Grow it back! Grow it Back!" So I did, an so shall it remain.
ehowton at 2007-04-20 19:36 (UTC) (Link)
My wife went nuts when I moved from a beard to a goatee. I ask you sir, what's up with women and us men with facial hair?
leonardii at 2007-04-25 13:36 (UTC) (Link)
Who knows. Let me ask Lena right quick. BRB.

Ok - I have an answer. She simply said that without the beard, I looked like a completely different man. Furthermore,I appeared as a weird and strange looking man.

So, when it was time for "nocturnal actvities" she said she didn't want a different/stange/weird man to love - she simply wanted the man she has always known... the man whose pogonotrophy has defined and shaped his appearance. In essence - the bearded man.

And they say men have some stange logic. Hmmph. Oh well - as long as I still get what I need, her logic can remain mysterious. Not like I'm ever going to figure it out anyway.

As the punchline to the joke to understanding women says - "Do you want that bridge with 2 lanes or 4 lanes?"
leonardii at 2007-06-05 22:18 (UTC) (Link)
I don't know... maybe it has something to do with the, ah, um, "feeling" they get when we do our husbandly duties.

Otherwise... I don't know either.
ehowton at 2007-06-06 01:00 (UTC) (Link)
Well of course you're right. That's how she explained it to me anyway.
snapper521 at 2007-04-22 03:30 (UTC) (Link)


Haha. That is what Eric said as well. :-P Pogonotrophy has it's place... but to much isn't welcome. Example is the way the Amish grow their beards until they have them down to their belts... which is ridiculous and I haven't the faintest clue how they get all those kids with beards like that... AND with the women never shaving ANY of their hair off... they are not allowed to cut ANY of their hair. (depending on the church) which is just gross... least to me... cuz I mean you gotta at least have shaved legs... *odd look*

Anyway - back on subject... My dad goes from having one to not having one every 6 months then vise versa growing one in the winter and shaving it in the summer because my mom likes him both ways, and it's warmer for him in the winter and cooler in the summer, so they both stay happy.

I get used to him in a beard or with the scruff... then he shaves it and I have to try to re-adjust... it's freaky.
leonardii at 2007-04-23 19:28 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Pogonotrophy:

Although my head does have hair, I keep it neatly and tightly buzzed so that in warmer times, I stay cooler. In colder times (rare in Texas), I just wear an awesome and hip toboggan (that's a stocking cap, not a sled) to keep my head and (chiefly) my ears warm.
snapper521 at 2007-04-24 03:24 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Pogonotrophy:


I don't think of Texas as needing stocking caps. I think of horses, ranches, cattle and dogs. :-P

Someday... I'm coming to visit your fine state, and heaven knows I might just stay there for awhile!

Ditto for Montana, Colorado, and Wyoming.

I have a hankering to go horse back riding in those states, and to work on a ranch for a couple years. Among the other things I would like to do before I grow old.
leonardii at 2007-06-05 22:10 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Pogonotrophy:

Yeah, too much is definitely not cool. I see dudes with lamb chops that look like they came from the Civil War Era. I don't know what to think though... I'm 35... not 18.

Since I'm not so young and hip anymore, I don't know *what* the latest crazes are. I'm certainly not a conservative when it comes to new fashion. I embrace awesome looks and unique styles. But mutton chops on a guy that looks like he's only about 20 just looks a little freakish.

But - who am I to say what's cool.

When I was about 21 - I worked in a cheap hotel as a hotel clerk. These older guys... probably in their late 30s... they came to the front desk (me - as I was the only guy there), and this hotel was far from elegant. It was inexpensive, maybe not a rat shack, but not a Hilton suite for sure. They had something wrong... like a missing towel from their room, or they ordered extra towels and they never came... whatever it was, it was pretty lame for a complaint for the type of hotel/motel where they decided to stay the night (cheap... just like they were - they looked like white trash). They had the nerve to demand a FULL refund of their bill... about $43 dollars (this was about 1996).

I told them that I couldn't do that, nor could I give them a discount on their bill. I just didn't have that kind of authority (I was just a simple desk clerk, and even if I could - they were jerks so I wasn't about to give them any discount of any kind). I was wearing my goatee... and back then it was sort of avant garde, as it was not nearly as ubiquitous as it is today.

These guys called me every cuss word in the naval tongue. But my favorite was when one of the guys said, "Well, maybe I'll just come around that counter and kick your ass you bearded-fuck!"

I smiled. I mean - it was just too funny. Of course, he wasn't smiling. But then, my composure came back... and I threw the guy's receipt at him and said "Just get the hell out of here and don't ever come back!!"

There was two of them, so perhaps they could have started a ruckus - but I had just gotten out of the army, and I was still pretty well built. Maybe they took a good look and decided that it would not be worth a brawl. Anyway... they left. But I'll never forget being called a "bearded-fuck!"

Today, I still wear my goatee with pride - just as I did back then when I got looks from all sorts of people. I mean, I think in the small town of Abilene, I was maybe one of two guys who sported the goatee. It was considered quite a "movement" back then.

Now... a goatee is as common as weeds in the garden. :)
snapper521 at 2007-06-07 19:25 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Pogonotrophy:

Haha!! That is hilarious. :-D I love that story. :-D

"Back then I was still well built" that makes you sound as though you are just falling apart... the nails coming out of every board...
leonardii at 2007-06-05 23:10 (UTC) (Link)
I've seen guys from 18 to 90 sporting the same goatee as I've got.

I don't think age has anything to do with it. For me, it's a comfortable way to wear the natural growth of hair that grows on my face. The hair that grows in this area is so tough - I literally have to shave 3 or 4 times with a new blade to remove all the hair. It's just easier to let it grow and shave the rest of my face where the hair is not as tough as nails.

I've been using an electric razor now for about a month. They said it would take 30 to 45 days to get accustomed to the way the electric razor shaves compared with a blade.

I just love it! I bought a middle of the line razor - it was about $60. I didn't want to try out a cheap one, because from the reports of my friends - they don't cut the hair very well at all.

But, the one I got does a really good job. So - my next electric razor will be the $225 model that is self cleaning by soaking the razor head in a special solution that keeps the blades clean and free of bacterial growth, plus it keeps the blades extra sharp for an extra close shave.

It will be a while before I get this new "toy," so for now - I have to use my middle of the line razor. Which is fine, because it doesn't tear up my face the way a regular razor does... and i actually get a close shave. The only drawback is... for it to really work, I have to shave every day... or at least every other day or the hair is too long for the razor to be effective. If I let the hair go for more than 2 days, I have to shave a little, then clean the blades, shave a little, clean the blades... and so on. It works... it's just time consuming and I think it dulls the blades of my razor. Of course I can replace the blades and the "screen" that covers the blades.

But - I think I will just keep using it until I can afford the high end model.. then I'll invest money in THAT razor to keep it sharp, clean, and in brand new condition.

As for dudes like me having the goatee... maybe they have the same problem with their facial hair... maybe it's just tough to shave.

Of course, you've got those guys who can go three weeks without shaving and all they have is a little patch of hair here and there on their face. Lucky bastards. They must have some strong Native American blood in their mix... because they never have any thick growth ANYWHERE on their face.

But - guys like me... the hair grows and it grows fast and thick. It's just easier to let it be and concentrate on the areas that are less tough. That's all I can say about it.
snapper521 at 2007-06-07 18:08 (UTC) (Link)


My dad shifts between having a beard and shaving it. Usually giving the excuse of "it's winter, let me have some whiskers so I can keep my chin-nee-chin-chin warm..." Mom, likes him both ways so she doesn't care either way. :-)

My brother is blonde, so although he has the same type of beard as Daddy... since he's only 15, he only shaves about as often as I make him. :-P Cuz he still doesn't "have it" so its still in that "here and there" stage. And looks odd, to say the least.

Both of them have the potential to shave (both brothers) but only one of them has the actual need to do it more then just when he feels like it. Even then... he still refuses to do so until I've nagged him. :-P

Honestly, in the guys my age, I like them a bit rough around the edges, not really full grown beard, but not clean shaven either. I like the 5 o'clock shadow look... :-P but it takes a certain kind of guy to wear it, because it doesn't always look right on some of them.

*shrug* all in all it doesnt matter I suppose, at the time I posted that comment it just hit me that almost all the guys Eric's age seem to have beards or goatee's.
leonardii at 2007-06-09 14:49 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Goatee's

*shrug* all in all it doesnt matter I suppose, at the time I posted that comment it just hit me that almost all the guys Eric's age seem to have beards or goatee's.

Perhaps it's just part of our generation. Like hippies wore long hair and beards. Technical geeks wear goatees.

Maybe there is a generational connection - maybe there is not.

I wear mine for comfort... that's all I can say.
snapper521 at 2007-06-09 17:05 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Goatee's

:-) Yup yup.

I have noticed that "geeks" tend to talk the same thats for sure. *giggle* But it's all good. It's just making sure that I continue to stretch myself and broaden my mental horizons. :-)
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