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Posted on 2007.04.16 at 22:00


leonardii at 2007-06-18 03:58 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Tom H.

Yes... very illogical indeed.

Like I said, I don't understand. I really don't.

I would like to. I would like to be able to find the reason why people live the way they do and why. It's a subject that's intriguing.

But I just don't understand...
snapper521 at 2007-06-18 04:06 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Tom H.

Psycology? *shrug* Not really my cup of tea. But I would like to know why people are willing to settle for anything but the best for themselves and why when they have been born into a good family, why they can just allow themselves to slip backward in society into the white trash place again... This is totally mistifying to me.

You have people like Tomas who dream of better days. Then you have people like Lizabeth (childhood friend) Who allows herself to get knocked up by a boy who is so below her "station" in life that I wouldn't even give him a second look.
leonardii at 2007-06-22 15:06 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Tom H.

I too ponder the questions of why people do this to themselves. I have a friend, who has many children from men she does not even like... much less love. But then, there they were... in bed, doing the deed - knowing what what happen.

I don't wonder about her intelligence - she is quite smart. I just wonder about her need for acceptance - and it has come upon me that in her earlier years of life, she was only accepted because she was beautiful. And this "truth" came to her - so it's the only thing she knows. She's beautiful, so therefore she must accept ment to mistreat her, even though it's her duty because she is a devoted person to them - as a wife, a mother, etc. And also - it has to do with a certain amount of money. You become accustomed to such a lifestyle - and so do your children. The mother doesn't want to leave the man, because the money would be gone - and her children would be the ones who suffer. so, she suffers for them, and humiliates herself, so her children do not have to feel the burden of going from wealthy to sheer poverty.

But that's only one that I know... the others, well, I cannot say. Like you said - a girl getting pregnant from a lowlife. Was it the excitement of being with somebody "forbidden" that was so appealing. I've talked with many girls - and yes is their answer. Those "bad boys" are just so damn attractive because they life a renegade life and that attracts these girls like flies to honey. Not all girls of course... but usually the ones who are born into a nice family - where luxury and money are just par for living. They don't want to bed with nice, handsome, rich boys - because they are nothing but "playboys." However, a dude that throws women away like garbage is as attractive to them as fried food is to a fat man. Psychology? Hell, I don't know.
snapper521 at 2007-06-22 17:38 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

I personally would prefer a poor boy who treats me good over a rich boy who runs around on me, beats me or whatever.

I currently have the option have having a "rich playboy" but I keep him at a distance because I don't trust him for one thing, and for another if he truly is as rich as he claims to be (which is a red flag to begin with if he must tell me about it, then how rich is he really?) if he truly is as rich as he claims to be, then it would hold the possibility of making me become more then a little adicted to him and his money.

He found that his money doesnt really impress me and in fact holds me back, so he has stopped reminding me that he is rich. For the time being.

But I have seriously contemplated taking the money he's offered me in the past when I've mentioned my "problems". Example: tuision, cell phone bill etc...

But in all honesty i keep myself really really clean from the debt. No credit cards to jack up, no bills that aren't necessary... and I am real careful how much I spend so as to not be stupid in the amounts I spend and on what.
leonardii at 2007-06-22 18:13 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

If a man offers you money take it!!

Just be clear that there will be no reciprocity, i.e., you're not going to bed with him if he gives you the money.

Make it clear that if he's giving you money - he's just being a gentleman. That will chase away all the boys who claim "I'm rich!" just to impress you. Sure, let them flash that money... let them buy you expensive gifts. And keep them!! But don't you dare give in to his "needs."

If he is indeed and truly rich, he can afford to throw money at you. When he sees that you are not going to take the bait - he'll move on, because he has plenty of cash and he'll know there will be plenty of girls who will "take the bait."

If he's not really all that wealthy, but like you say - has to keep telling you he is... you are *absolutely* right. He's just trying to *impress* you and he's hoping that the lure of just the words "I'm rich" will attract you to him.

Why - because it works! It really and truly works. Plenty, oh so plenty of girls out there will just fall over completely if they here "money" from a guy. They think they are *special* and he's going to be all theirs. These are the dumbest girls on earth. And they bite the hook every time. It's like fishing during spawning season for salmon. Their's millions of them... all you have to do is throw a shiny hook in the water - and you'll have a "swarm" fighting over who is going to bite the hook.

Belive me - I know all the lines and I have a whole set of "girl fishing tackle" in my little box of knowledge that i carry around. I can go into a club, and walk out with just about anybody I want. Why - because most girls are just that dumb. Plain and simple.

Of course - it works in reverse too... girls can take advantage of dumb guys just as easily. Even a poor guy will give up his last paycheck if a "poor girl is in trouble" Boo Hoo *weepy eyes* "They are going to repossess my car if I don't make this $300 payment. They will have guys lined up ready to give them their last dollar to help out this "nice" girl who just needs a little help getting back on her feet... because her last boyfriend cleaned out her bank account. Oh man, the bullshit never ends!!

But I say to all my girlfriends... if a dude wants to spend money to buy you gold... let him! If he wants to take you shopping to buy you some new clothes... let him! Then when he acts likes he deserves "something in return" - slap him good and hard across the face and tell him that you are not a whore who can be bought. Then stop answering his calls, ignore his emails, and he'll get tired of you and move on to his next "target." Meanwhile - you've got the gold and the new wardrobe! Ha!! Let him lose at his own game. Soon enough, he'll know better to go for smart girls, and he'll go for te dumb ones. He just wants to "win" a smart girl because she's more of a prize... something a little harder to get. All men love competition. Fishing for dumb girls gets old... because then, you get stuck with them... and trying to get rid of a dumb girl is like trying to constantly clean the splatterd bugs from your windshield... necessary to keep a clean looking car, but hard work and very tedious. :)
snapper521 at 2007-06-23 01:33 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

*laugh* Bugs on your windshield huh? :-D Thats awesome.

Yeah. I've thought of most of those things. And he's willing (by all appearances) to give me as much as I want. However, what I do not want to happen is for him to get my address, home phone or anything he can use to contact my family.

He is a former drug dealer and truly, bad news. It's funny -- all the guys who "have money" around here, are drug dealers. He isn't even from the area. He's from Metropolis, IL. Which is about 7 hours away give or take.

I know he's bad news and keep him at arms length, however I have considered the money regardless. Since nothing is free I have never accepted. And it wouldn't truly be the temptation that it is if it weren't for one of my friends (who will remain un-named) who has asked for money a few times, and since it wouldn't be my money to begin with, I've considered asking for the money to give to him. :-) See my logic? The problem being is he would probably ask for "favors" like you said. Which is another reason I haven't accepted.

We'll see. But I think right now, I'm not going to accept anything.
snapper521 at 2007-06-23 01:34 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

Also have thought about having Brian send the money straight to my friend. But haven't done that either.
leonardii at 2007-06-24 19:41 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

Some guys are so dumb, they will do anything to "impress" a girl. Up to and including sending money to their friends who are "going through a bad moment at the time."

I'm telling you - I've had too many friends fall for this one... and they do it. Most are respectable enough to where if you say - "uh-uh" not getting any. I just though you were giving the money away as a gentleman. That should stop them cold, and like I said - they'll either keep trying - bleeding their bank account dry because they just love a good chase - or they will stop because they don't have any more cash to "impress" the ladies.

I've seen my friends do it. They fell for it... and the regret every day of it. But they still fell for it.. DUH!!

There's no shame in taking advantage of one's stupidity. He thinks he's "buying" you - which is wrong. You take the money knowing you're not going to put out... but that's not exactly wrong if he is still dumb enough to keep forking over wads of cash.

I'm a gentleman - I just don't do that. I help out my friends any way that I can... and I *do not* expect any "gratitude" for me helping them out. It's a pleasure to help out a friend... and someday - they may help you out. That's the way the world should work. But there are alwasy jerks out there who think the smell of money will make girls come drooling all over them. Some dumb girls do. But they also learn lessons... the hard way! ;)
snapper521 at 2007-06-24 21:26 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

*laugh* Good one. :-P

He's going to be in the same town as me, and theoretically we could meet up, however I have said no because of how... wrong, it feels.

I have a gut instinct, and I trust it. In the past it has warned me about "bad boys" and has saved me from being hurt, forced to do something I don't want to etc... So I am trusting my gut this time.
leonardii at 2007-06-24 22:38 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

Your "gut" instinct is the leftover primal capacities that we once held as cave dwellers whose total lives depended upon their "instinct" guiding, directing, and showing them an easier way to stay alive, fight in battles and just to come up with new "ideas" (learning experiences) that taught them how to make clay pots to store oils, waters, wines, etc.

Now, in the modern age - we don't exactly have to hunt for our food, kill, it, grill it, then eat - all the while keeping at bay rival tribes who "wanted to easy way out" and decided to raid smaller vllages, kill the men and boys, keep the women as slave lovers, and steal all of the tribes crafted items like tools, clay dishes and pots, adn leave the old and sick to just die. But in the modern world, we hve people wit more than enough wealth to share and cre for the billions of orphaned and sometimes badly maimed children. But they don't care... they scavange from the other tribes - the masses of people who pay good money to see a movie or sports evens. The players get millions, live i uber lucury homes, use gold and diamon studdet cell phones, and drive and wear the most ecpensive cars and clothes made on this earth. What a bunch of vulures.

So, to get to my point - your gut instinct is, if you listen to it properly and carefully, probably at least 955% effective. *Trust* the gut... *ignore* the bullshit. Your life will thank you for it later on down the road... if not really soon! :)
snapper521 at 2007-06-26 01:47 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

It already has thanked me. :-)

I have always deduced that my gut is derived from how long I was allowed to think and act like a child.

Truly, I was a child for my entire childhood and was not forced to become old before my time like other children.

I have always had a good gut instinct. Always. (not just about humans, but animals too)
leonardii at 2007-06-28 03:36 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

It's good to trust the gut. I've went against mine several times.... and everything always ended up badly.

And I kept hearing those word "Dammit, if I would have only listened to what my instincts (gut) was trying to tell me... I would have ended up in this awful mess.:

The instincts that we gave - they grow, develop, and become more acutely sharp as we age. Perhaps that why there is so much wisdom in an old man. He's seen and done much more than we have, therefore, his instincts are more finally developed and he knows the difference between bullshit and the truth. Now - if we could only have it when we're youn... we'd do alright!!
snapper521 at 2007-06-29 19:34 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

It is because we can not be as wise as the elderly that the human race will never truly progress. It will constantly go through the same old cycles until Christ returns. (the tribulation)
leonardii at 2007-06-30 17:55 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys

Very wise words indeed!

I'm superbly and greatly impressed!

You are quite unique yourself.

And I thought myself to be quite the philosopher. Hmmm, I may have just met my equal.

We shall see, my new friend, as time passes...
snapper521 at 2007-06-30 23:32 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Women and bad boys


Thank you.

Best not allow Tomas the Tomato to hear you praising me Leon... :-)
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