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May the Force be with You

Posted on 2007.12.23 at 12:14

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Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2007-12-24 06:20 (UTC) (Link)
I might in turn ask you to provide a source for a counter-claim as you have taken that side of the argument.
Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2007-12-24 06:29 (UTC) (Link)
Please provide a link to where I took "that side of the argument". No, seriously. You made a statement, and I asked you to cite your source. You provided a link that was an opinion piece, belonging to an organization that can hardly be considered to be even remotely objective.

If you'd like me to provide a little more detail about the process of evaluating your information sources and avoiding bias, I'd be happy to help. As a writer, it's important to be aware of this sort of thing.
ehowton
ehowton at 2007-12-24 06:36 (UTC) (Link)
He'll be up all night now. Have fun ;)
Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2007-12-24 06:41 (UTC) (Link)
Gah. Is it too early to haul out the wine?!
ehowton
ehowton at 2007-12-24 06:48 (UTC) (Link)
Never give up, never surrender!
Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2007-12-24 07:11 (UTC) (Link)
I prefer "By Grabthar's hammer, I will BEAT YOUR BRAINS OUT!"
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2007-12-24 06:42 (UTC) (Link)
Like hell I will.
ehowton
ehowton at 2007-12-24 19:12 (UTC) (Link)
...and yet you were. Amusing really, your resolve. lol
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2007-12-24 06:45 (UTC) (Link)
You're right. I'm sorry.

As I can't find any article that argues my point it must not be so. But that doesn't jive with the facts or what the man said himself. ( put the Force into (Star Wars) in order to try to awaken a certain kind of spirituality in young people -more a belief in God than a belief in any particular religious system., Eric's source)

You'd have us believe by arguing counter-point to me that the point of the films were to convert people to Christianity, but you can't cite a source that would show this to be the case.

What has happened as a direct result of the worldview of the Star Wars movies is people have thought "maybe there's a God out there somewhere" but stop short. No specific religion is pushed yet at the same time the movies do not refute the idea of a God out there somewhere which is, in fact, the very definition of agnosticism.
ehowton
ehowton at 2007-12-24 06:53 (UTC) (Link)
For the love of Christ laying in the manger all swaddled up because there was no room at the inn, I got that from a 45-second Google search and it was the closest to a quote I read in Playboy magazine just prior to the movie being released in 1999.

Shit man, do some research yourself!
Cat Who Likes OpenBSD
bsdcat at 2007-12-24 06:53 (UTC) (Link)

You'd have us believe by arguing counter-point to me that the point of the films were to convert people to Christianity...

That doesn't appear to be what's being suggested as Lucas' goal, no.

What has happened as a direct result of the worldview of the Star Wars movies is people have thought "maybe there's a God out there somewhere" but stop short. No specific religion is pushed...

Someone who stood and spoke in the Friends Meeting this morning said something to the effect of "God is bigger than religion." I tend to agree.

Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2007-12-24 07:04 (UTC) (Link)
If the whole point of a religion (to it's followers) is to worship a Supreme Being, then it would stand to reason that the SUpreme Being is bigger then religion. I don't see this as a great epiphany.
Cat Who Likes OpenBSD
bsdcat at 2007-12-24 07:12 (UTC) (Link)
More importantly, bigger tahn any particular religion.
Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2007-12-24 06:54 (UTC) (Link)
You'd have us believe by arguing counter-point to me that the point of the films were to convert people to Christianity, but you can't cite a source that would show this to be the case.

Are you on crack? Something even more hardcore? I have no idea where you're getting this rubbish; I said nothing of the sort. I asked you to CITE YOUR SOURCE, and then offered to give you advice on evaluating the credibility of sources as part of the research process (as both a freelance writer and an information science graduate, I think I'm qualified to provide assistance in this area). How does that translate to "[y]ou'd have us believe by arguing counter-point to me that the point of the films were to convert people to Christianity"?
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2007-12-24 07:02 (UTC) (Link)
You disagree with my point of Lucas promoting an agnostic agenda, ergo, the opposite of this would be that he's promoting a specific religion.

But he said that's not was he's about. Atheism and Agnosticism got a real shot in the arm after World War II, particularly during the drug and free love movements of the 60's and 70's. Lucas himself said that he was attempting to be as inclusive as possible while still promoting the idea that there is a God or Supreme Being out there somewhere; argue that point with him.
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