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Kroenen, Hellboy

Kroenen's Lied

Posted on 2008.05.22 at 09:11
Current Location: 75070
Current Music: Beltrami - Hellboy

Could it be at first too big, then too small?
Make up your mind and stick to your choice
But the things which depress you are making me insane
Your words are nothing but hypocrisy.

Oh how beautiful does art become through Latin
The world falls, the world and the hero!
Listen well - in my dream
There is no space for you, so lay down to sleep.

Being known as an eschewer of early adoption often paints me into a corner. Regardless, sometimes I have the last laugh, and sometimes I don't. Just like with everything else in this world. Surely those who do run out thusly, expending themselves as they may oft times also experience this. Its simply the nature of things.

Having rec'd the Collectors DVD box-set of Hellboy from celtmanx nearly a year ago, coupled with the gushing 'teh Marco' fangrrlishness of melancthe notwithstanding, AND having received a lackluster review from those I've known who've seen it, led me to believe that Hellboy and its second-rate composer Beltrami score was another reach for the brass ring toward yet another comic book brought to life on the silver screen. I mean, I hadn't even ever heard of Hellboy as the studio seemed to be fighting now over cut-rate comics just to find something to exploit. And its not like the top-rated comic movies were getting any better, either. "Batman & Robin" anyone? "Spiderman 3?"


I found the story enjoyable, the characters, while initially flat, seemed to come to life over time - and the villains fresh and interesting. But most of all, the score. While I'd heard "Father's Funeral" and found it a fair listen, without having the force of the imagery and emotion behind it in context, it honestly fell flat, and I didn't realize how much so until I was watching the film.

I have a new favorite soundtrack now, that I will likely listen to until I can no longer stand it. And as an opera lover, I have sure enjoyed its prelude, "Kroenen's Lied" a hint of Wagnarian nod. What a great flick! celtmanx, thank you. melancthe, I appreciate your patience (and thanks for your work on the awesome screencaps!) I'll eventually come around.

In looking over the lyrics to Kroenen's Lied I found many places suggesting that the track was the "Lover's Duet" (Wie sie fassen, wie sie lassen...) from Tristan und Isolde and while that information appears erroneous, that arrangement was playing on the turntable both times [Kroenen] was seen listening to music.


Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2008-05-22 16:09 (UTC) (Link)
I kind of like Hellboy.

*nonchalant look*
ehowton at 2008-05-22 17:50 (UTC) (Link)
I'm gonna restrain myself from further comment on this until I get a chance to watch it again, this time critically, while I immerse myself in the score's many themes, most of which I have come to love.

Now I'm looking forward to comparing the tracks to where they play throughout the film, and catching all the stuff I missed the first time around ;)
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2008-05-22 16:29 (UTC) (Link)
The only time that I've ever had a chance to listen to Hellboy was going down the road delievering. With this being a holiday weekend, I shall have to give it a serious listen.
ehowton at 2008-05-22 16:42 (UTC) (Link)
It won't mean anything to you without having watched the film, IMHO.
(Anonymous) at 2008-05-22 16:46 (UTC) (Link)


Hellboy 2 is being released shortly.
Danny Elfman is doing the score for this one.
galinda822 at 2008-05-22 16:47 (UTC) (Link)

Re: FYI...

Hellboy 2 is being released shortly.
Danny Elfman is doing the score for this one.

Sorry, forgot to log in. Oops!
ehowton at 2008-05-22 17:19 (UTC) (Link)

Re: FYI...

I heard about that and I'm very curious how he's going to play off the original!

Of course now know to not wait four years to see it ;)
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2008-05-22 19:02 (UTC) (Link)
I like the new edit sword!
ehowton at 2008-05-22 19:03 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks. I'm still working on the rough edges. Literally.
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2008-05-23 05:07 (UTC) (Link)
The light saber idea is at best gay on your site and retarded on my FL. Please revert to your earlier idea today. kthnksbye
CeltManX, Devlin O' Coileáin
celtmanx at 2008-05-22 21:40 (UTC) (Link)
I don't recommend let alone give movies that are crap you know!!!

It is not my fault you did not get the British humor in the episode of The League of Gentlemen we watched. I am glad that you did enjoy Father Ted though!!!

Oh and years ago when we watched that excellent movie Starship Troopers it was not my fault you were scared by the bugs and had to run to your kitchen!!!

Edited at 2008-05-22 09:42 pm (UTC)
ehowton at 2008-05-22 21:48 (UTC) (Link)
My wife and I both lend weight to your suggestion of movies.

See you Monday ;)
CeltManX, Devlin O' Coileáin
celtmanx at 2008-05-22 21:59 (UTC) (Link)
I pack and I pack and I continue to pack!!!
(Anonymous) at 2011-07-11 13:00 (UTC) (Link)
I guess, the singers are not native Germans, so their pronouciation sounds sometimes not absolutely right, but to me this line sounds a little different

>The world falls, the world and the hero!

As I understand it, but it is hard to be sure, I means something like

"The world falls for the world below."

Don't ask me what either of this means; I really enjoy the dark, enigmatic lyrics as well as the dark tune, great song, Beltrami!
ehowton at 2011-07-11 15:57 (UTC) (Link)


Your translation makes much more sense, actually - thanks!

It's not "Door to Heaven" ... is... Stargate.
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