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Posted on 2008.08.27 at 00:01
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Bear McCreary goes into great detail about the different themes he chose to score for the series on his blog.


Song 1

Song 2

Song 3


Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2008-08-27 07:48 (UTC) (Link)
Hmm, I'm wondering if I should organise to get some of the episodes from a friend when I see her tonight, seeing that you've all been talking about it and I feel so left out.

I hope there are attractive men and lots of HoYay in it.
ehowton at 2008-08-27 10:30 (UTC) (Link)
I don't know what HoYay is, but chix + guns + robots? How could you go wrong? But seriously, I *groaned* when I heard they were making a series from the Terminator franchise, and hadn't heard one positive thing about it. lehah is right; Lena Headey is no Linda Hamilton, and I wouldn't have picked it up if it hadn't been dirt cheap and I was itching for something to fill the gap the week before NCIS was released. (Yesterday, BTW, and yes I did thank you!)

But I'm glad I did.
Melancthe the Woe, So-Called
melancthe at 2008-08-27 14:47 (UTC) (Link)
I'll see if I can snurch the first few episodes off someone tonight. I like guns AND robots!

HoYay = Homoeroticism Yay! = slashiness. :)
ehowton at 2008-08-27 21:28 (UTC) (Link)
Hrm, think of T:TSCC more as RoboYay! Because when Summer Glau takes her top off, visions of Roboeroticism fill my head - Yay!
galinda822 at 2008-08-27 18:06 (UTC) (Link)
I'll listen to them when I get home tonight.

How are you enjoying Goldfrapp?
ehowton at 2008-08-27 18:43 (UTC) (Link)
The four albums are very different from each other, but they're quite nice.
ehowton at 2008-08-27 21:29 (UTC) (Link)
My favorites though, remain the ones you included on the CD you sent me!
galinda822 at 2008-08-27 22:57 (UTC) (Link)
Wow! We agree on something? ;)
Joshua Gizelt
swashbuckler332 at 2008-09-09 18:52 (UTC) (Link)
Check out this entry on Bear McCreary's blog. There are plans for a soundtrack album to be released shortly from La La Land!

I like Garbage, so the inclusion a Shirley Manson song sounds like good news to me.

Edited at 2008-09-09 06:53 pm (UTC)
ehowton at 2008-09-09 19:41 (UTC) (Link)
WHAT AN AWESOME READ (and I'm thrilled I don't have to wait much longer for T:TSCC score)! I'll have to check back to La La Land's website daily, because I always get my email notifications a day late, and one day is too long to wait for this pre-order.

I really, really enjoyed The Man Comes Around during the last episode - it morphed flawlessly into the cinematography and helped craft a very exciting final episode, especially since it was so unexpected. I think I had goosebumps.

The way Bear discusses the making of the new song - and comparing it to the one he did for BSG makes me wish I had DirecTV, as Season Two premiered last night. Thanks for the link!
Joshua Gizelt
swashbuckler332 at 2008-09-09 19:55 (UTC) (Link)
You're very welcome. I came across it on the FSM board and knew that you'd be interested!

Besides, McCreary's music for Battlestar Galactica is is a major aspect of why I like that show. I find it interesting that he was instructed to avoid themes towards the beginning, but as the show progressed and became more intricate, the music managed to grow and mature with it. Themes and motives appeared and took on new meaning... I remember realizing during "Exodus" what Lee was about to do when he saluted Will because I heard the "A Good Lighter" theme. I love the music for Will and Laura, I found the quote of Starbuck's theme in "Storming New Caprica" to be one of the most cathartic moments in the episode.

So I'm interested in what the music for The Sarah Connor Chronicles because this is a case where McCreary is probably being given carte blanche from the onset. I still haven't seen any episodes of T:SCC, but the first season is now available on Blu-ray... is it worth a blind buy?

P.S. I owe you big. This doesn't even begin to cover it.
ehowton at 2008-09-09 20:49 (UTC) (Link)
I find it interesting that he was instructed to avoid themes towards the beginning...
I always thought that was what Richard Gibbs was trying to accomplish but I was glad to see Bear was able to build off of what he'd established, while also incorporating more of Gibbs' bane - orchestration. I must admit, I grow weary of the many iterations of "A Good Lighter" though it was always very well placed in the series.

So I'm interested in what the music for The Sarah Connor Chronicles...
Its signature McCreary. He incorporates Fidel. I think he called it 'metal quartet' on his blog, but its the the type of minimalistic orchestration I'm enjoying more and more, with goos strong character themes. I always listen through the end credits to grab the thirty-second end theme. It makes me smile.

I passed on your link to galinda822 who dug this up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJtB4vWLfv0

...is it worth a blind buy?
I'm not a huge Terminator-mythos fanboy. I bought the box-set because it was inexpensive, and I was bored. I didn't expect to enjoy it as much as I have. I like the fact that as a series, they have time to develop ideas and put them into play, and to revisit storylines. The pace is comfortable and I'm learning to appreciate the actors. Summer Glau is a treat every time she's on screen. Bear McCreary scoring it simply sealed my fate.

I owe you big.
I don't feel that way at all. I'm just glad everything worked out.
Joshua Gizelt
swashbuckler332 at 2008-09-09 21:55 (UTC) (Link)
"A Good Lighter" has become a token track on the albums, mostly because it doesn't have much variation on it, but it's use in the show is much more spare. I have a similar reaction to the taiko drums, which I like but have become sort of de riguer... while I love parts of "Storming New Caprica," it lasts waaaaaay to long for me. I'm okay with it in the show because it is less grating when spread out over several episodes.

I can't wait to make my Battlestar Galactica mix once this next album gets released.

I wasn't too hot on Terminator 3, but I enjoy the second one and love the first (the first is the only self-contained story).

Gibbs isn't necessarily against orchestration (his score for Housekeeping is rather traditional), but I think the idea was when beginning the series that they wanted the sound to be very different from your standard space opera. McCreary proved that you can have thematic development without doing the 19th Century Romantic thing, and the show was all the more resonant because of it; even his orchestral music isn't something that you might find in a Star Wars movie.

Edited at 2008-09-09 09:57 pm (UTC)
ehowton at 2008-09-09 22:34 (UTC) (Link)
I can't wait to make my Battlestar Galactica mix once this next album gets released.
Will you perchance be including elements from the inaugural mini-series album?

I wasn't too hot on Terminator 3...
After watching the series, my wife and I had a hankering to rewatch all the movies (after which I watched the series again - it was a vicious cycle indeed) and almost stopped at the second. The second Terminator to me, is the quintessential Cameron; that and Aliens. Both the original movies are excellent films in their own right, but he has a way with action and emotion. We did end up watching the third, and I found it most enjoyable this time around. My displeasure with it the first time viewing came from its inability to measure up to the previous two, but this time I was able to enjoy the humor injected into it which I missed completely the first time.

Joshua Gizelt
swashbuckler332 at 2008-09-09 23:05 (UTC) (Link)
Will you perchance be including elements from the inaugural mini-series album?

Yes, I will, but most of the selections will reflect more their use in Season One. For example, "Starbuck Returns" is a shoe-in, but more for its unforgettable use in "Act of Contrition" than the mini-series. I had always considered the possibility of opening with a Gibbs original take on the Cylon motif that opens every episode.

I love The Terminator because it is so close in tone to much of the time travel science fiction I grew up reading. It is the entry in the series that has the most prominent sense of inevitability. In fact, I was surprised at the prospect of a sequel back when I heard they were making one because I had always thought of the first film as a closed causality loop.

Nevertheless, I found Terminator 2 to be a more than worthy sequel for me; sure the effects were dazzling at the time but I was more impressed with how the knowledge of what is to come has shaped Sarah Connor, who has become a Cassandra figure. As he did with Ripley in Aliens, Cameron uses the audience's familiarity and built-in sympathies for the character to take her into a much darker and more dramatically dense place, and both actresses rose to that challenge by producing some of their best work. I prefer the longer version of Terminator 2 because it presents both a more human side of Sarah (her vision of Reese) and emphasizes the theme that as the T800 becomes more human, she is becoming more like a Terminator. I'm a sucker for those "you become the thing you most hate" character arcs.

Unfortunately, I found nothing in the third film to chew on that was as meaty as any of this, and so I was disappointed. I suppose that if I was to have approached it with lesser expectations, I might have appreciated it more, but I feel somewhat cheated by it because it is basically just a formulaic action movie, and I felt that the franchise ought to have continued with a bit more ambition.

Edited at 2008-09-09 11:09 pm (UTC)
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