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Kroenen, Hellboy


Posted on 2009.10.28 at 11:30
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Current Music: Bond Beauties

align boxHELLBOY was one of those borderline B-movies in which the score helped it get its footing and cement it among novices and fans alike as a contender - it was the score which endeared us to the characters and their struggles. A score from a small-time composer who was not well known at the time.

AFTER the success of the first movie, big bucks flowed down from on high, production value greatly increased, and a big name composer was brought in: Danny Elfman. The Danny Elfman. No one doesn't like Danny Elfman. The Danny Elfman. For christssakes man, he's Danny Elfman! Unfortunately, as fantastic as he his, there's not a single memorable thread of melody I could hum from that big-budget movie with its big-budget score. Something was lost in translation. Marco Beltrami's score to Hellboy is an absolute joy to listen to, but I never listen to Elfman's Hellboy 2. It kinda sucks.

FAST FORWARD to Twilight. Carter Burwell is chosen to score the film, and while its not a B-movie, it was directed by an independent filmmaker, and let's face it, Carter Burwell is no Danny Elfman. But the director of Twilight is unable to shoot the sequel, so they bring in Chris Weitz, who's last film was The Golden Compass and Chris brings his own composer to the project, Alexander Desplat! As a rule, I don't care for Alexander Desplat but my ire is this: In just about every sequel film in recent history in which the composer reprized his role, the score has been fantastic.

UNFORTUNATELY in sequels which have changed composers, the scores have been...well, not good. Chris Weitz was quoted as saying,
The extraordinary world that Stephenie has created has millions of fans, and it will be my duty to protect on their behalf the characters, themes and story they love. This is not a task to be taken lightly, and I will put every effort into realizing a beautiful film to stand alongside a beautiful book.
But as far as I can tell, he failed to get a similar mission statement from Mr. Desplat. Which to me means that none of the original themes - themes which we associate with the charachters - will be used.

AND JUST like one of Burwell's tracks showed up on the soundtrack album of Twilight, so did one of Alexander Desplat's on the New Moon soundtrack which has already been released. It was no "Bella's Lullaby."


Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2009-10-28 17:49 (UTC) (Link)
Nice boobs.
ehowton at 2009-10-28 17:58 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks! I made them myself. I had no idea anyone would notice! That's so weird.
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2009-10-28 18:01 (UTC) (Link)
As you know, I really do like what I've been exposed to of Desplat's work, specifically Syriana, The Painted Veil and Golden Compass, the first two scores tying for first place of my ranking of his work. I'm always impressed with how the score compliments The Upside of Anger, but I keep forgetting it's a Desplat score and thus don't buy it. (If you do happen to come across it, please let me know.)

I know you've said you've listened to a lot of his work and don't care for it, but if you haven't listened to the titles mentioned here (excluding Golden Compass) I would encourage you to take another swing at him. For the record, The Curious Case of Benjiman Button and Julie & Julia are not memorable, but upon a second listen (I only saw each film once) might be good additions to the collection.

To your point, however, I cannot off the top of my head validate your point*, though logically it does stand to reason. I know that, for instance, when actors and actresses change between sequels or halfway through a season, the production typically goes downhill.

*This is pissing me off. I should know film well enough to validate this off the top of my head, but I'm having a mental block. Then again, I don't do a lot of sequels.
ehowton at 2009-10-28 19:02 (UTC) (Link)
I've listened to Syriana numerous times because it was one of your favorites. To this day I can't hum a single tune from it.
sacredyuja at 2009-10-28 18:26 (UTC) (Link)
Did you really make them?
Cause I said to myself..."Wow, they gave *Bella* boobs in this poster..." lol
ehowton at 2009-10-28 19:01 (UTC) (Link)
I really did, but it was also in the cropping, which is also important:

thesweetestnote at 2009-10-28 22:28 (UTC) (Link)


I wonder how Mozart would have scored movies???

ok... I'm going to really get off subject - like I've never done that ;)

Today I saw a film called "The Cake Eaters". I said to myself 'hey there's the girl from "Into The Wild" the one who was in her panties ready to screw Emile Hirsch' Ever since that movie I've been sooo in love with her.

Now, I have avoided the whole "Twilight" craze. I've been hunted by it but I keep dodging it and now it has found it's ace to reel me in...Kristen Stewart. I had no idea that was her until now.

When I grow up...I want to be Kristen Stewart

ehowton at 2009-10-28 22:40 (UTC) (Link)

Re: OMG!!!

Having first seen Kristen Stewart as a tween in the children's movie, "Catch that Kid" she is forever lost to me as a sexual object. But don't hold that against me for fiddling with her boobs. Even gay men like boobs I'm told. I just wanted...more. I know, I'm such a man!
snapper521 at 2009-10-31 17:47 (UTC) (Link)
I didn't read any of this as the photo turned me off but was just going to let you know I'm back on LJ for awhile. It doesn't matter I suppose but... whatever anyway, we have a new Chipotle' in Fort wayne and I was thinking of going there, but wanted to get your opinion in what to get?? You used to like that place... so thought I'd check with you first. :-)
ehowton at 2009-10-31 18:00 (UTC) (Link)
I didn't read any of this as the photo turned me off
The post was about big-name composers who are brought in to score sequels to movies in which lesser-known composers score the initial movie until its success is gauged.

but was just going to let you know I'm back on LJ for awhile.
Fantastic! I was inquiring as to your well-being here recently and was told it was a possibility. Welcome back, and since I no longer cross-post to xanga, please tell your mother, "Howdy" for me. Thanks.

we have a new Chipotle' in Fort wayne
This is VERY exciting news indeed!

I was thinking of going there
You absolutely must.

but wanted to get your opinion in what to get??
A burrito. They'll ask you what you want on it, and you'll see with your own eyes, cafateria-style, the delicious goodness you'll soon be partaking. Fat, diced chicken, tender shredded pork, or beefy chunks of steak. And that's just the meat selection! Everything is tenderly hand-crafted for a personalized eating experience. Enjoy!
CeltManX, Devlin O' Coileáin
celtmanx at 2009-11-01 02:37 (UTC) (Link)
You want to get the Barbacoa burrito. It is shredded beefy goodness!!!
CeltManX, Devlin O' Coileáin
celtmanx at 2009-11-01 03:32 (UTC) (Link)
My oldest wanted to know whether I thanked you for Speedbump (Trelane) yesterday. He is very grateful for him and loves him very much.
ehowton at 2009-11-01 03:45 (UTC) (Link)
And you explained that you basically held him hostage, right?
Missus Emm
missus_emm at 2009-11-24 14:25 (UTC) (Link)
Ahah! You know, I reviewed New Moon yesterday and actually thought there was no score for this film!!! I'll have to get hold of it somehow and go and correct myself now.

Now I'm off to snoop in your LJ.

ehowton at 2009-11-24 16:01 (UTC) (Link)
Nice to meet you!

I left a comment on your review (very well done BTW - not at all squee-ish and covers exactly what I thought should be covered) but it didn't show up. I read your disclaimer but didn't want to comment again if they're screened - please let me know!

I was simultaneously disappointed and thrilled with A HREF="http://ehowton.livejournal.com/283350.html">Christopher Heyerdahl as Marcus</a> because he had so few lines :( YET - that entire scene made me want to re-read the last book. The conclusion I drew is that he's simply being introduced here, and will have a much greater role to play (and that role will be awesome) in later movies.
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