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Ayn Rand

Posted on 2010.11.20 at 21:45
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My goal is to start, and finish, The Fountainhead this week.


quicksilvermad at 2010-11-21 03:48 (UTC) (Link)

That book depresses me.
ehowton at 2010-11-21 04:03 (UTC) (Link)
The only expectation I have is the introduction of rational egoism as a philosophy. How we get there - nfc.

I look forward to its conclusion and am now curious if I will feel the same.

Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2010-11-21 07:42 (UTC) (Link)
You really should read Atlas Shrugged instead; you might learn something about the Value Proposition.
ehowton at 2010-11-21 09:52 (UTC) (Link)
The effort expended researching prior to purchasing and preparing to invest the time required for reading and digesting such a heavy novel wasn't done frivolously.

Multiple sources (potentially up to, and including the Ayn Rand Institute) indicated reading The Fountainhead PRIOR TO Atlas Shrugged for many reasons, the primary theme of which boiled down to the authors philosophy is introduced in this book and concluded in the latter, though as always I appreciate your input.
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2010-11-21 13:13 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for that tip.

Both tomes are on my reading list, though if I had to only read one I would choose Atlas Shrugged for the way that Rand deals with the concept of money. (Someone burned me a section of the audio book and Adam Curry solidly pimps the book.)
ehowton at 2010-11-21 13:53 (UTC) (Link)
Thankfully, I'm under no such limitations, else I might agree.
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2010-11-21 07:41 (UTC) (Link)
Good luck with that. Do you really think you'll have the time necessary to get that much reading in?
ehowton at 2010-11-21 09:39 (UTC) (Link)
I tend to set aggressive, yet wholly attainable goals - at least that's my understanding of successful goal-setting as a motivating life-pursuit and its worked rather well for me thus far.

Honestly, all things being equal, "Yes."
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2010-11-21 13:11 (UTC) (Link)
I don't disagree with your philosophy of setting goals. I do know that even if I had nothing to do for a week, I wouldn't set a goal of reading a tome that size.

According to Amazon, the hardback is 704 pages in the cheaper, mass-market edition. 250 words on a page is considered average. 250-300 wpm is considered average read speed. You would need to read slightly less than two and a half hours a day for five days at a constant speed to read the tome in time, assuming averages the entire way. (Sadly, I cannot find a word count for The Fountainhead.) Do you really think you're going to have 15 un-interrupted hours on your Thanksgiving trip? I'm thinking that's ambitious even for you.
ehowton at 2010-11-21 14:01 (UTC) (Link)
Your logic is not incorrect! Point of fact I have approximately 9-days of reading (Friday-through-Saturday) and have secured the audiobook for both the drive there and back. While I abhor the excruciatingly lackadaisical tempo of audiobooks (slowing me down tremendously while simultaneously stealing my ability for at-the-moment reflection of passages) it does afford me approximately 4-hours of text otherwise wasted - all of this was of course factored into my goal-setting.
Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2010-11-21 14:39 (UTC) (Link)
I think I might be more interested in your post-game analysis of your reading plan than I am your take on the book! Please to provide?
ehowton at 2010-11-22 02:36 (UTC) (Link)
The average Rooskie, son, don't take a dump without a plan.
This Is Me, Ten Sticks
lehah at 2010-11-21 14:16 (UTC) (Link)
It is a blemish on the face of humanity that Rand was not dragged out into the street, bound to a car, dragged several miles down a broken Montana road, drawn, quatered, stabbed and spat upon by all feeling human beings alive in the world.
ehowton at 2010-11-22 02:31 (UTC) (Link)
I've heard similar expressions of distaste on and off from you and several other sources but haven't felt qualified to argue them based solely on what I know of objectivism - I'm hoping this read, and Atlas Shrugged will at least give me the insight to finally form an opinion on the matter once and for all.
Joshua Gizelt
swashbuckler332 at 2010-11-21 14:23 (UTC) (Link)
I think this is one of those books you have to really read in high school or college to get the full Rand effect. Once a person has some real world experience, Howard Roark comes across very differently, particularly at the conclusion. There are some great dramatic moments in the book, but ultimately boiling down the two major speeches at the end from Ellsworth Toohey and Roark (taking the fuzzy, idealistic haze off of the latter) one ends up with two extremes, and you know how I feel about that, politically speaking.
ehowton at 2010-11-22 02:25 (UTC) (Link)
That context makes perfect sense. I'm going to keep this in mind if I'm feeling underwhelmed at its conclusion - its likely not a scenario I would've come up with on my own. Thank you.
michelle1963 at 2010-11-22 04:41 (UTC) (Link)
Ayn Rand is on my list to try at some point. Let me know what you think.
ehowton at 2010-11-22 14:41 (UTC) (Link)
There's no reason I won't be able to reach my goal of finishing the book this trip - I'll plan on leaving you The Fountainhead at the end of the week and finish up on my audiobook on the drive home as planned. In fact - I should be able to procure Atlas Shrugged before my next visit in December and we can swing the same deal :D

Its not a difficult read at all, and had quite captured my attention. Should make for some interesting discussion despite where we find ourselves, but I wholly suspect swashbuckler332's context to be spot-on.
pgrtop at 2010-11-24 03:08 (UTC) (Link)
I read Atlas Shrugged while working the night shift in Riyadh, SA...during Desert Storm. I loved it!
ehowton at 2010-11-24 05:00 (UTC) (Link)
I'm currently halfway through The Fountainhead and I'm really enjoying it as a novel. So far, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Although, her preface about "the perfect man" now that I am halfway into the books, seems to me to be layered with flaws, and I'll leave it at that.

It helps me put Atlas Shrugged into perspective when someone I know as well as you says things such as this. Thanks!
(Anonymous) at 2010-11-24 05:50 (UTC) (Link)
John Gault is my ideal, moral man. When you read it...let's discuss!
ehowton at 2010-11-24 06:02 (UTC) (Link)
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