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Nesting Virtual Machines

Posted on 2010.11.23 at 23:45
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Because vmware + ubuntu no longer play nice, nor ubuntu + vpn, it was with several hours and a heavy sigh that over my single 3G-downgraded-to-EDGE AirCard through an additional VPN tunnel I first booted the base operating system (ubuntu 9.10) launched my VMware workstation guest (WindowsXP), and attempted to bring up the ESX vSphere client - but since vSphere clients + (dot).NET don't play nice either (can't we all just get along?), I had to move the machine.config file from another Windows box which runs it. The only other one that I use is under my desk, so I ssh'd into it (ubuntu 10.04), started VNCserver, pulled that over my virtual guest, and successfully launched its virtual WindowsXP client!

Which promptly segfaulted.

Nested virtual machines are made of fail. I launched one, to bring up another, to launch a third. It really isn't as elegant as it sounds confined to 1024x768 because vmware + ubuntu aren't cognizant of each other. Six hours of work today and in the end I accomplished nothing.

My next laptop is going to be 64-bit with twice the RAM and I'm going to attempt something a little more sane if I can beat that overzealous hulking VirtualBox1 into submission (VirtualBox = My Bitch?)

I hates it, I do. But something has to give.





1 - No, its not a digital-era masturbatory interface; VirtualBox (and its F/OSS counterpart, VirtualBox-OSE (Open Source Edition)) is a freeware, proprietary-sourced Desktop virtualization product.

Comments:


Tomas Gallucci
schpydurx at 2010-11-24 15:41 (UTC) (Link)
We use VMWare all the time at work with no problems; I don't understand why you're having so many.

Just for curiosity's sake, I'd like to know how you attempted to connect to Windows once that VM was booted. My spidey senses tell me that RDP from your laptop would have run things smoother than trying to launch a client on the Ubuntu box.

I'm also curious to know the issues that vSphere has with .NET given that vSphere only runs in Windows. It seems absurd that the two don't play nicely; after all, .NET has been around since at least XP SP 2.
ehowton
ehowton at 2010-11-24 17:21 (UTC) (Link)
We use VMWare all the time at work with no problems; I don't understand why you're having so many.

Mostly because the mouse/keyboard mapping stops working on fullscreen after the upper lefthand corner 1024x768 "size" of the screen - this usually occurs after a certain kernel update as vmware + ubuntu are having lots of compatibility issues. I've tried many of the "fixes" none of which work for me. Also, as I stated, I was "nesting" my virtual machines - bringing up virtual machines within virtual machines all across a downgraded AirCard connection further bottlenecked through a VPN tunnel. I cannot comment on the VMware you use "all the time" at "work" with "no problems" where these specific circumstances are concerned, but it sounds like you're on a LAN. I don't have these problems either when I'm at work.


Just for curiosity's sake, I'd like to know how you attempted to connect to Windows once that VM was booted.

I was going to turn on RDP once it was up and running assuming it would be more stable that the built-in Workstation VNC connection which allows connectivity through the virtual machine configuration. Needless to say the segfault killed the vm and the connection at each attempt. Both require a running O/S.


My spidey senses tell me that RDP from your laptop would have run things smoother than trying to launch a client on the Ubuntu box.

You can only RDP into a running operating system. I could not launch the O/S without first starting VMware Workstation - which is on an ubuntu host. I VNC'd into the ubuntu host to start the WindowsXP guest.


I'm also curious to know the issues that vSphere has with .NET given that vSphere only runs in Windows.

Let me Google that for you.


It seems absurd that the two don't play nicely;

Absurd. Yes. That exactly.
Michelle1963
michelle1963 at 2010-11-25 01:03 (UTC) (Link)
Hmmmm.
Samantha
thesweetestnote at 2010-11-29 21:00 (UTC) (Link)
Nothing plays nice anymore... damn this world of chaos!
ehowton
ehowton at 2010-11-29 21:06 (UTC) (Link)
SPREAD THE WORD!
Samantha
thesweetestnote at 2010-12-01 17:40 (UTC) (Link)
I will... in song and dance.
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